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drive belt interval

Postby too old to rock » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:51 pm

anyone know what the recommended interval is for changing a drive belt on an x max 250 2009, mines done 15000 miles now, i bought it last year with 9000 and i know it has not had one up till then. I think the check interval was 8k but last time i looked it looked fine and like new, still does the same top speed and does not seem any slower getting there, just seems a bit whinier when my music is switched off,
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Re: drive belt interval

Postby rjc1944 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:30 pm

I don't know the official answer but consider what you do know:

it's a rubber/whatever belt;
it's five years old;
it's done 15,000 miles;
it's started making a strange noise;
your life may depend on it.

Now then - when do you want to change it?
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Re: drive belt interval

Postby porlmeau » Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:54 pm

On my 2007 Xmax 250, the drive belt change interval was 12000 miles. After it was changed the transmission was noticeably smoother for a while and the cold start off judder disappeared.
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Re: drive belt interval

Postby DTO » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:46 pm

Belt & rollers 12,000 miles , They do last longer but it's a risk to push the life of the belt too far , At the best it will leave you stranded somewhere & the worst would be a rear wheel lock-up if the belt wraps around the clutch drum :!:
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Re: drive belt interval

Postby too old to rock » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:31 am

pulled the covers off last night and the belt looks in good condition, will be using this one less from next month as the summer bike comes out to play, think i'll organise a belt and rollers and put it on the ramp. My cold judder is getting worse, don't know if this is a design flaw as my ole 250 majesty never did this, odd that it is only the first couple of set offs and not all the time.
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Re: drive belt interval

Postby DTO » Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:13 pm

Most likely a glazed / dusty clutch / drum , A quick rub over with sandpaper and a clean with brake cleaner would sort this out :idea:
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Re: drive belt interval

Postby StephenC2 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:14 pm

Assuming Yamaha original parts are used, I would not be too worried about running to 12k miles, but for peace of mind I would personally start getting twitchy at 10k miles with any scooter.

I had one go on a Typhoon 125 many years ago after I overran the recommended service interval and it was not pleasant. I do not recommend waiting for the inevitable. Bits of rubber flying around inside the casing at high speed won't do anything much good.

(Same goes with car cambelts - it costs a fortune but much better to grumble about that than to cry about the cost of the subsequent damage if you don't...)
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Re: drive belt interval

Postby RoadieRoger » Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:14 pm

I have finally changed the drive belt on my 2003 Aprilia Leonardo 250 which of course has a Yamaha engine . I have had the machine from new and it was in 2 Dealers` Showrooms for a couple of years unsold and so could be 14 or 15 years old . Dates on the inside of the bodywork parts suggest they were moulded in 1999 . The mileage is 16,642 miles converted from kms . I purchased a Korean` Bando `belt from Amazon and it came from Germany for just under £50 including postage . Belts vary from £20 to about £110 for the Yamaha 250 . After removing the casings and trying my small Impact Driver on the front pulley nut without success, I rode it carefully down to the local Bike/Scooter Shop who had the nut undone in a few seconds with his more substantial Impact Driver .
On my 125cc Yamaha Scooter 18 years ago I changed the belt by expanding the rear pulley and manoevering the belt over the front pulley , not on this 250cc though , much too strong for me at my age now !
There was nothing wrong with the old belt , the new one is marginally smoother on pulling away , the age of the rubber worried me more than the mileage . When I had put it all together I found a part left over . This was a small brand new looking distance piece/collar . I looked at an exploded view of the Leonardo casing on the Ultimate Parts website and guessed where it should have gone , so took the casing off to look , this time in a few minutes due to familiarity and use of copper slip on the fixings . Sure enough there was a small recess on the fixed casing for the collar , so that on tightening the bolt in the centre of the outer case this prevented over tightening and kept the casings correctly apart . Now I had done 20 miles with it like this without any problems , but I do like to get things right .
For those wondering what the charge was for dealing with the front pulley nut and putting the belt on , a jar of coffee and a pack of Kit Kats . Well done to that Motorcycle Dealer ?
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Re: drive belt interval

Postby DTO » Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:13 pm

Never heard of Korean bando belts , The genuine Yamaha belt is £50 delivered from suttons or dayco which are good aftermarket one's for £28 :?:
Did you also change the rollers & sliders as these are normally worn & changed at same time :?:
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Re: drive belt interval

Postby RoadieRoger » Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:24 am

No only changed the belt DTO, as the Scooter is going perfectly well and the only thing that worried me was the age of the rubber . The belts for this machine vary greatly in price . Suttons charge an eye watering price of £102.94 , Ultimate parts ( Aprilia Specialist ) £58 , and the others range from £12.88 for a Vicma( scarily cheap), Polini Kevlar £39 , Malossi Kevlar £33 , Wemoto £31.20 and Bando £33.64 . Bando sell transmission belts worldwide and I thought I would go for a mid priced belt . The Kevlar belts worried me as I am convinced they would cause wear on the pulley surfaces . If they are so marvellous how come they are not supplied originally by the Scooter Manufacturer !
The local Chinese Scooter `Specialist `swears by Bando Belts after plenty of belt shredding by the others .
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Re: drive belt interval

Postby DTO » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:59 pm

The Kevlar quote added to the malossi & polini belts is just to make them sound like your getting a better sports belt that makes your scooter faster ect .
When in fact the factory belts fitted to piaggio scooters for instance are Kevlar reinforced and most likely they all are :idea:
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Re: drive belt interval

Postby andyscooter » Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:46 am

every genuine belt I have ever fitted is Kevlar

its the shiny bits you can see on the belt

also helps to stop it disintegrating when it snaps
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